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Alice:	Aphra, they did not walk in the same circles of society.
The Pitkins were as common as they could be.
Mamoo:	I'm	not saying they weren't. That	doesn't	make	any
difference	to me. And Granpapa didn't care.	He didn't care	at
all.
Alice: Bonnemama didn't care?
Mamoo:	I said Grandpapa did not care.
Alice: Oh Grandpapa.
Mamoo:	I	don't know what Bonnemama thought. I never did know
Bonnemama very well.
Alice: And he bought her a house down on Bayou St. John which was a lovely one of the old fashioned houses here that I think is probably one of the historic things here in New Orleans.
Mamoo:	By the way, 1707 Esplanade where Grandpapa lived is now a
historic house for the city to take care of.
Alice:	And	I think it was built by an architect named	Howard	who
was a	very	noted architect at that time, but	it was	built	for
somebody else. And then Grandpapa bought it. And Grandpapa always loved to say, "Fools build houses and wise men buy them. H He loved that. That was a Yankee twist.
Mamoo:	Now, Grandpapa owned a hardware store which he made a lot
of money in at the same time he owned that beautiful place down there on Esplanade Avenue.
Alice:	He shipped armaments to Central America. He did all kinds
of things that he shouldn't have done.
Albert Baldwin did, shipped armaments to Central America?
Alice:	Yes.
Mamoo:	I didn't know that.
Mamoo:	Well, alright. He owned a hardware store. I don't know
what he did with it, whether he did things wrong or not. He also was president of the New Orleans National Bank. It was one of the first banks.
Alice:	That was his own bank.
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