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While most of the information Amelia gave was accurate, we did find mistakes she made that she should have known the correct answer to. This could be due to her age at the time (79), poor hearing, or language issues. This information and much more can be found in the deposition of Amelia Favre Ladner dated March 21,1906, in Bay St. Louis. This deposition was a U.S. Government effort to identify Choctaw Indians that were omitted from the original land applicants following the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek in 1830. She told the Indian Agents about her siblings, parents, grandparents, along with many interesting pieces of information. One interesting piece of information Amelia told was that her "Grandfather, Simon Favre, was poisoned in Mobile, Alabama by a woman for his money." See this source at the National Archives, Record Group #75, Part 1 (Choctaw), #57990-09-053, MCR 2415. We have a copy of this deposition, and many others, in our files if needed. Their children - In Mobile, Alabama Deed Book Y, p. 275, dated September 4,1835, the "Heirs of Simon Favre" sells property. Their names are: John B. Favre, Mary, Alex, Charles, and Louis Favre. Their children - In Mobile, Alabama land records, Deed Book 25, p. 112, dated September 7,1868, the "legal heirs of Simon Favre." They are listed as: Mary Favre, John B. Favre, Carmalite Favre, Simon Favre, Amelia Favre, Celestin Favre, Eugenia Favre, Louis Favre, Edward Favre, Mariana Necaise, Romain Necaise, Enos Necaise, Phsolone Quave, and Celena Necaise. These same heirs are listed in Mobile Deed Book 24, #3, dated 1870 and other records. Note that some of these children are actually the grandchildren of Simon Favre and Pistikiokonay. Their children - In the Hancock County, Mississippi Deed Book D, pages 12, and 291 - 293, dated September 7,1868, names the same "heirs of Simon Favre, deceased" as listed in the above Mobile deed. Simon Favre's marriage - In the Livingston, Sumter County, Alabama, Deed Book E, p. 223, dated April 20,1839, is a sworn, legal deposition by John Jones. In this deposition, Jones says that Simon Favre married "Marion," a daughter of "Franchi Muss Tubbee." He said they married "between forty and fifty years ago," lived on the "Tombigby River," and had "several children by her." Forty to fifty years before 1839 would place the marriage between 1789 and 1799 or "about 1794." Jones also said "they married in the Choctaw Tribe," meaning they had a Choctaw wedding ceremony. During that time there were several versions of the Choctaw wedding ceremony. They can be found on the Internet if needed. Simon Favre apparently left his Indian family around 1800 when Franchimastabe (died 1801) was old and lost most of his authority as a leader to the younger and popular, Chief Pushmataha. Soon after Simon left his Indian family, he married Celeste Rochon in Mobile on March 25,1801, about the time Franchimastabe was dead or dying. It would have caused Simon serious "political problems" if he deserted Franchimastabe's daughter and his grandchildren while he was still in power. We have much more information and records on this family in our files if needed. From the above, it is clear that Simon Favre (1760 -1813) married a full Choctaw woman named, Pistikiokonay (who also went by other names), and had several children by her. These children are covered in our Favre History, pages 38 thru 75. She is also found using a Christian name later in life -Mary Ann, also spelled as Mariana or Marion. We will identify her as Mary Ann "Marion" Pistikiokonay, a full Choctaw Indian. The name "Marion" is a slurred version of Mary Ann, and this is probably what she was called by family and friends. Her oldest child was Alexis Favre, born in 1784 as covered in our Favre History, page 39, published in 1984. 3
Favre, Simon Simon Favre (1760-1813) - his Choctaw indian wife (3)