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Mamoo i Arthe. Arthe Baldwin who married Uttman. Alio*i Di*d wh?n her daughter wan born. Mamoo: And the daughter now is a Mrs. Redpath still living in New York City. Alice: She MAY still be there. Your mother was Alice and she had five children? Mamoo: Yah. Alice: Five. One boy, four girls and they kept on getting girls and girls and girls but they wanted another boy because they wanted the boy to be named for Grandpapa Baldin. Mamoo: Who was Albert. Alice: But Baldwin, they wanted to have an Albert or something, so they didn't have one and so everybody was teasing Papa and singing songs in the bank about "Oh Albertine, Albertine." And it never did turn out. But your parents had Nugent? Mamoo: Yah. Well yes, then he was killed you see. He grew up and he got married and he married a girl from Texas and they had one daughter who is Betsy. Betsy now||Epenstall. So tell me about the house. You said when you were very little girls you used to go over on Saturdays. Mamoo: Every Saturday morning. Every Saturday morning. Mama and all of us four little girls would go over to Grandpapa's house for his breakfast. Would Nugent go also? Mamoo: Well Nugent would come every now and then wouldn't he? Alice: I don't remember Nugie having been there once. Mamoo: I don't really remember his coining either, but I know that he was always dressed up like a commodore. He had a little suit and he was called commodorle. Alic?: But commodorle did not press any cowboy suits. He had a dark blue suit ... 5

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