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As we begin this study of the Ladner and Ladnier families. Let us first look at the nations that ruled this area.
In 1682, LaSalle completed his trip down the Mississippi and took possession of the valley for France. He called it Louisiana for King Louis XIV.
Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville afterwards reached the Gulf Coast in early 1699 and built Fort Maurepas (near present day Biloxi).
New Orleans was founded on its present site about 1718 and became the seat of Louisiana government about 1722.
In 1762 by secret treaty, Louisiana was transferred from France to Spain. This was done without knowledge or approval of the Colonists.
In 1763 the Treaty of Paris, all Florida was ceded by Spain to England in return for Havana which England had captured the proceeding year. Thus, Florida was formed in two provinces, East Florida and West Florida.
In 1779, Spain declared war against Great Britian. The Spanish governor of New Orleans seized most of the English forts in West Florida and in 1781 occupied Pensacola.
In 1783, the Treaty of Paris returned Florida to Spain. By the year 1810 the citizens met in convention and declared West Florida independent. They organized a government and of course asked for admission to the United States.
Again in 1814, England made one more stab at this area. Many of the Ladner men volunteered their service to Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans.
In 1817, Mississippi became the twenieth state. The various changes in this area had its effect not only with the people bub'many of their records were sent to Spain, France, or some other place. This also futher complicates the work of the genealogist.
There are several way's the Ladner name is spelled. Also, various way's of pronunication namely these; Latdener, Adner, Lardner, L'Adner, Lanner, Narner, Ladniere, Ladnaire, Ladnier, and Ladner. For the most part Ladner is used.
The origional passenger list, representing the only existing documentation of the multitude of people involved in the colonization of the French province of Louisana. Catalogued under series G I,
464 and series F 5b, 37 of the Archives of the colonies.. Also , in the Library of Congress, Washington D.C. the Louisiana State Museum Library, New Orleans, Louisiana, records a Christian Ladner-"Fraudrs De tabac"- age 20, 5'4", chestnut hair, of Pistersene (Canton of Lucerne, Switzerland) on board the vessel "Marie" bound for Louisiana and dated May 27, 1719.
Other reference;"Mississippi Pioneers ", by Neil J. Toups, page 47.
In the Archives of the Immaculate Conception Cathedral at Mobile Alabama. This record is as follow's:
"In the year 1724 on the twelfth of September, I baptised ..........
..... Jean Baptiste, the son of Christianne Letdener, native of Canton
of Lucerne and of Marie Barbe Counal, a European. The Godfather being Jean Baptiste a native of Lalorie for the nephew."
This son Jean Baptiste Ladner married to Marie Louise Fisseau (Delorme) their first son was Jean Baptiste Ladner who married Francoise Carco (Lalancette, Fayard)? The marriage dispensation dated May 2, 1801 states for sixteen years he had lived with his cousin, Franooise Lalancette. At this time they had seven children. It is with this marriage record I base my Ladner and Ladnier families. Also the Baptisnal records of
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Juana Ladner and Silvano Ladner are also to be included with this family. Marriage between Jean Baptiste Ladner
with Francoise Carcou (Lalancette, Fayard)?
May 2, 1801
On May 2, 1801, I, Father Antonio de Sedella, Capuchin Religious, pastor of the Sanctuary Chapel of the Cathedral of the City of New Orleans, having fulfilled the ordinary formalities, dispensed fran the three Canonical banns, and from the inpediment of second with third degree of consanguinity bu the Diocesan authority, without resulting in any other impediment, joined and veiled according to the rite of Holy Mother the Church, Jean Baptiste Ladner, native and resident of Bay St. Louis, a district of this Province, the legitimate son of Jean Baptiste Ladner and Marie Louise Delorme, with Francoise Carcoux, native and resident of Deer Island, of the same province, the legitimate daughter of Francois Carcoux and Marie louise Lalancette (Fayard). The contracting have given their mutual consent by ward of mouth, and, in this same act legitimize their seven children: Gilbert, Basilia, Genovieve, Nazille, Carlos, Jean Baptiste and Julian. The contracting were examined in Christian Doctrine, confessed and recieved Conmunion in the presence of Carlos Panquinet, Jean Baptiste Chalan and Jose Velasquez. For this I sign.
Father Antonio de Sedella
Baptism of Gilberto Christien February 18, 1790
On February 18, 1790, I, Father Ignacio de Olot, principal Sacristan of the Church of St. Louis in New Orleans of the province of Louisana in America, have baptised and administered the Holy Oils to a "Parbulo," aged one and a half years, to whcm was given the name Gilberto, the legitimate son of Juan Baptista Christien Bandrera and Francesca Fayar. For godparents he had Valentin Lafontaine and Madelina Simon. For this I sign with my hand, on the same day, month and year as above.
Father Ignacio de Olot
Baptisn of Genoveba Ladner September 24, 1793
On September 24, 1793, I, a Capuchin religious and priest of the Church parish of St. Louis of New Orleans, solemnly baptized and administered the Holy Oils, according th the rites of Holy Roman Church, to a girl who was born'on February 29, 1792, leap year, and gave her the name of Genoveba, the natural daughter of Juan Bautista Ladner and Francesca LaLancet. The paternal grandparents are Juan Bautista Ladner and Maria Luisa deLorme; the maternal grandparents,
Juan Bautista LaLancet and Maria Luisa Fayard, all natives of this parish. The godparents were Carlos Fabre and Genoveba Christian