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manure, that dry cow manure, put it in a bucket and set it afire and take a little water and sprinkle it to keep it from burning. You had to keep the smoke going on. You had to smoke them out of the house. They couldn?t stand smoke. Guerin: And it did help? Was there an odor? LaFrance: No, it was dry; it didn?t have odor from it. Every time it would catch fire, you?d have to sprinkle it. Guerin: Would you say Ansley was a town? LaFrance: Well, when I was a kid, they must have had 10 or 12, maybe 14 houses. Ansley is a big town: it starts from over here, but it?s about a mile wide and a mile or mile and a quarter long, and all that?s cut in streets, but now it?s just that one road running through it. Guerin: Your father was raised here? LaFrance: No, my daddy was from Point a la Hache, Louisiana. My mother was raised here. My daddy come here, he was 17 years old and she was 14 years old when they got married. And she was raised right here. She was a Ladner; her mother was a LaFontaine and her daddy was a Ladner. Guerin: Did you speak French when you were little? LaFrance: No. I hated it. Guerin: Did your mother? LaFrance: Yes, all the family. All of them spoke French, but I hated it. The reason why I hated it, I had two uncles, married to my aunts, and neither one of them could speak French, and they [the aunts] would just rattle that French away, and they would sit up there like fools, and that used to bum me up. I could understand it, but just never did speak it. Her granddaddy would speak French pretty near all of the time but I just never did take it up. Guerin: Going back to your early childhood, was there still some Indians living around here? LaFrance: The most Indian family I knew of was the Favre family. My grandmother, she was part Indian too. Her mama was Indian, she was a Favre. You know where Napoleon cemetery is now, since they moved it? When they built NASA, they moved. Part of it is on Napoleon Road, between Hwy 10 and Napoleon, and part of it is in Pearlington. When I worked for Bert Courege, when he was supervisor, I was a foreman for him for six years, I went up there where they moved it. The saplings 7
LaFrance, Jules (Poss) Interview-2004-06